Sample Dialog With a Client

It illustrates the dialog involved in a typical progression as a client begins with a general recording and progresses into custom recordings. There is usually not this much dialog necessary, but sometimes it's needed to fully comprehend what is required.

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:34:00 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Re: order confirmation

Inessa King Zaleski wrote:
> 
> At 11:16 PM 6/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >Looking foward to your tape. One question I had was will the Deep
> >Hypnosis tape work with some other tapes (not yours) or with sessions
> >with other hypnotists? If not I might consider a custom tape.
> 
> My "Intro" recording is designed as a precursor to my other
> recordings.
> It leads you through a prolonged induction into a deep hypnotic state
> and instills keywords that are used by my other recordings to re-enter
> that deep hypnotic state more quickly.
> 
> Although it would be of some general use (familiarizing you with the
> process
> of entering an hypnotic state), it is of far greater use when used in
> conjunction
> with recordings that make use of the keywords it instills.
> 
> It's not clear whether you still want the tape, please advise.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Inessa King Zaleski

Inessa,

Thank you for your clarification and for your concern. Yes I still would
like your tape, sorry for the confusing wording of the last sentence. I
was aware of the key words linking to your other tapes from your Web
pages. If I am able to respond well to this tape I plan to purchase some
of your other tapes in the catalog (first one would be Restoring Normal
Blood Pressure).

Perhaps at a later time we could discuss a custom tape to help with my
general use question. After learning to enter deep hypnosis, in that
respect your tape should help with that, I would like to be able to
transfer the ability to respond as deeply to indications in general.
Maybe just learning how to enter a deep hypnosis by you would
automatically increase my ability to be hypnotized by others, but I
would imagine a tape with suggestions (post-hypnotic?) to that effect
would work better. I also think I would respond better to your
authoritarian style.

Again thank you for responding to my questions. When you find a moment
in your schedule, a reply with your thoughts on the custom tape, would
be appreciated greatly.

Sincerely,

Ed  

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:22:35 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Re: order confirmation

Dear Inessa,

I have been enjoying your tape very much. WOW you are VERY GOOD:-)

I had a feeling from listening to your samples on your Web site that I
would respond to you and I was right. From the very first listening I
think I went under very deeply. Each time I have listened to you tape, I
feel like I am going under deeper and deeper. Your extended induction
was exactly what I needed to begin overcoming my resistance to going
deeper. I have never felt so relaxed in my life.

> A custom recording could be constructed to guide you to be
> more receptive to suggestions in general, to relax resistance, etc.
> It could be useful when being hypnotized by others (especially
> if they are willing to use whatever keywords you instill to trigger
> transitions).
> 
> Perhaps a phone call would be more useful in discussing your desires.
> I will be available Monday and Tuesday, then away until July 10th.
> I can be reached at 800-929-CALM or 706-781-8089.

Thank you for your offer to construct a custom tape to help me
accomplish my goals. I have taken some time to orginize my thoughts and
goals which will make our phone conversion more productive. I would be
able to call Monday about 7pm or Tuesday about 9:30 -10am or again at
7pm.

I have always been fascinated with hypnosis and how it can be used to
expand the minds abilities. 

So some of my things I would like to try to accomplish with your help
are:

	1. Learn how to easily and quickly go under deep hypnosis. 

Your first tape is helping me a lot. I don't know how good a subject I
am but I do want to learn how to go as deep as I am able. My experience
with your tape has taught me that a very skilled hypnotist can overcome
barriers blocking my ability to enter the deeper levels of trance. 

	2. Learn to overcome my resistance to fully respond to suggestions
given to me. 

My ultimate goal is to learn how to respond and really experience
hypnotic suggestions. I don't know if only gifted hypnotic subjects can
respond completely to suggestions or if anyone could learn with the
proper guidance and practice. 

For example when asked to let my arm float up I seem to resist doing it.
Eventually I do start to raise my arm but only with a conscience effort
to start it. Once I get it going it seems to slowly raise up with little
help on my part. I would think that if I were not resisting the
suggestion I would not have to help it and I could not stop it from
rising even if I tried to. That's the level of response to hypnotic
suggestions I would like to achieve.

I have a hard time visualizing images. I know I can do it, because I can
sometimes create very vivid images just before I fall asleep, especially
when I have stayed up too late and I am very tired. Seems to be some
kind of mental block going on.  When given suggestions to create a
visual image I an usually only able to muster up faint foggy pictures. 

	3. Transfer my ability to respond deeply to your hypnosis and
suggestions to another hypnotist of lesser skills perhaps. 

I have has some hypnosis sessions with others by phone and by tape (and
recently even by email) with varying degrees of success. 

To those I trust, I would like to be able to grant them the ability to
bring me back to the deepest levels achieved under your hypnotic
trances. 

While I believe that I cannot be made to do anything harmful to myself
or others while under hypnosis. Still giving this level of control over
me to someone with less hypnosis skills might possibly lead to some
accidental problems.  Perhaps some safe guards could be given. 

In a couple of instances your suggestion of using a trigger phrases
might work quite well.  I have a relationship with a couple of women
whom use hypnosis in an erotic way with me. They already use trigger
phrases. Unfortunately I have not be able to respond was well as I want
to their inductions and suggestions.

One women hypnotizes me over the phone. She always begins the session by
having me take a few deep breaths. She uses that as a trigger to put me
back under. 

The other offered to hypnotize me via e-mail. She uses the trigger
phrase SLEEP NOW. I didn't think it would work but I gave it a try. To
my surprise it is working a little bit. It requires a lot of
concentration to read the suggestions and respond but so far I am having
fun with it.

I think I would like two more triggers. 

One where I could give to my hypnotist of choice to use. 

And another that I could give to myself. This would work for
pre-recorded tapes.

All this sounds like a lot to try to accomplish with one tape. I would
be willing to go for a series of tapes if you believe it work better. 

As far as hypnotic styles I think in view of what I am tring to
accomplish, your authoritarian style would be a natural fit. Although
your soft voice does seem to lull me under. Perhaps a combination of the
two?

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:51:36 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Re: keywords & states of hypnosis

Dear Inessa,

Thank you for answering my questions. 

> There are several depths of hypnosis that needn't concern you at this
> time. They go by different names depending on who you consult.
> Suffice to say you will progress through these states at whatever pace
> is appropriate for you.

I am assured that you have a sound plan and method to guide me into the
deeper levels of hypnosis. I sense that you have already begun leading
my thought process to be more open and accepting rather than mainly
analytical. 

> As you progress, different keywords can be given to accelerate your
> return to that state. Keywords are most effective when given after 
> certain states are attained, they "anchor" that state to an audible 
> cue that is used to speed your return to that state (allowing you more 
> opportunity to explore that state further or progress beyond). With 
> willingness, practice, and dedication, deep states (coma > and beyond) 
> can be instantly re-entered with hearing a few syllables.

Now I understand how keywords are used and how helpful they are. Also
why practice is an important part of the process.

> A basis in trust is a strong prerequisite for keywords to work;
> like the story of the boy who cried Wolf, if the subconscious learns
> that the utterer of the keyword cannot always be trusted, the keyword 
> deteriorates in power.For optimal nurturing use them sparingly, and  
> only with those you trust completely.

Your advice is duly noted.

I am planning to listen to your custom tape a minimum two times a day. I
will try to just go with your suggestions.  I will write back to you
after a couple of weeks. I'm am sure that progress will have been made.

Sincerely,

Ed
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 14:32:58 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Deep Hypnosis Tape #1

Hello Inessa,

It has been about two weeks since I received my first custom deep
hypnosis tape. Again thank you for agreeing to help me.

You asked me to write to you about how it was going. I hope I did not go
overboard.

**************** General observations/comments. ******************

	I am surprised that even after listening to your tape some 25 - 30
times, I still find it interesting and pleasant. Each time I listen, the
experience seems slightly different and look forward the the next time.
	
	Your suggestions regarding visualization are exactly right and just
what I wanted. Unfortunately, I need more work on this area (see more on
this later)

	Your authoritarian commands certainly grabbed my attention! I wanted to
listen very carefully and do anything you wanted! They Worked on me!!

	I think the tape has brought me into a deeper state of hypnosis, but I
will leave the judgment to you.

	As is write this I remember most of the tape (I think). But strangely,
when I am listening to the tape, I often cannot remember or do not
bother to think about what the next suggestion will be. Sometimes  it
seems like I'm hearing the suggetions for the very first time. 

	After I wake up my hands and ankles seem frozen, I have to *force* each
of my hands and ankles to get moving. I guess I relaxed them so much I
forget how to move for a while.

	Once (maybe twice) I felt weird feeling that I was slowly spinning or
sliding to my right.

	At different parts of the tape I would feel my eyeslids and eyes
fluttering.

You have lost me during different parts of the tape (varies). Sometimes
small sections, other times big sections. A few times I have found my
self listening to the music at the end of the tape after missing most of
the tape. (maybe I just fell asleep?)  


****************  My responses to your suggestions. **************

(I am paraphrasing your suggestions the best I can remember. I may have
forgotten some of them or the order you gave them)

	From the very first listening, my eyes closed instantly, even before
you finished saying "Close you eyes." At first this really suprise me
because you did not begin the tape with an induction, yet within seconds
I was responding to your suggestions.

	I have not been able to try to open my eyes (I have tried my best to do
so. They really do not work!

	The deep breathing was nice. I always seem to start breathing out
through my nose (until you tell me through my slightly open lips.. you
would think I would learn after a while ;-)

	I like the tensing of my muscles suggestions *now* ... ( at first I
thought they were a bother, but lately I don't have to think about doing
it, I just do it). The exercise really does relax me (even my face,
although I still do not like scrunching my face)

	The "heavy object rolling up and down" works! I have felt it going up
and down and at time visualized it.

	"Counting to Five and doubling your relaxation" made me feel like I was
going deeper, especially when ever you said "Down, Down ..."

	The suggestions of "Your body is turning into lead" were excellent! I
was able to imagine and feel the heaviness very well. I thought about
trying to move my legs and arms but I was so convinced that I would not
be able to  I never bothered to try, I am very sure I would not be able
to.

	"You are extremely heavy and cannot possibly move...it feels good to
not be able to move" Very convincing! I felt *complelled* to listen to
you and "Do what ever you said"

	I find my self listening very intently to your suggestions that I go
deeper each time I listen to your voice.

	"you will find yourself in a very pleasant place on the count of 
three" Although I feel more relaxed when you reach "three" I have a hard
time to visualize the place. I did see myself walking along the beach
once and the waves washing over my feet (that was cool!) but generally I
just quietly wait until you continue.

	Your suggestion the I become light and float into space works although
I think I need more time to change from being extremely heavy
to becoming light as a feather. After a while I start to feel
like I am going up. (The time I was feeling my body spin and slide I
felt myself zooming up quite well however!)

	"Rocking back and forth" This works! I always feel myself rocking (more
like swinging left and right). Some of the times I could *really* feel
myself moving!

	"The most import thing for you to do is to listen to me and do what
ever I say..." After the rocking, I find I have no choice but to listen.

	"See the number 50 appear and disappear" Ok this is were I am having
trouble. I see absolutely *nothing* -- no numbers appearing or
disappearing. *BUT* I must tell you I find myself staring that *nothing*
as if my life depended on it! Your commands "you are doing what I ask.."
makes me *want* to please you and see the numbers very much and I find
myself playing along as if I *were* seeing the numbers and start
conunting down to one but I always get confused and have never made
it past about "thirty" before you *grab* all my attention to listen to
you. You should know that even though I am not able to see the numbers,
this sections *does* take me deeper every time.

	The whole section about being able to feel and visualize better is
GREAT! and exactly the wording I wanted. You use of golf images helped
me connect with the images because I am so familiar with them.

 The "feeling the swing.." works! I even can sometimes see myself
swinging as if looking from behind. Your suggestions that I can see the
ball flight also works. (I have seen the flight looking like a white
line tracing out the flight.

"You will be able to use all you senses to ..." I have heard the ball
hit the green while I watched it bounce.

You suggestions are helping with my visualization and experiencing the
suggestions goals, but I will need lots more help. (see my thoughts just
below this section)
	
	During the first 10 or so listening I had some weird things happen at
the end of the tape.

- I *did* not want to open my eyes!! I finally would although long after
you told me to. When I did I always felt wonderful after.

- I had a harder and harder time to hear what you were saying at the end
of the tape (ten times deeper etc..) until finally -- I did not hear --
you at all, until you started counting me out of it. As a matter fact a
few times I lost you until the count up from much early in the tape
(hard to remember exactly where)

- Lately I am able to hear the ending part clearly and open my eyes
easily when you ask (I lose other parts instead)


*********************** My thoughts *******************************

I seem to respond very well to "physical" i.e.. body suggestions.

I have a difficult time "visualizing" suggestions. One thought that came
to me -- I am very nearsighted, in fact I did not learn I needed glasses
was until the third grade, the doctor asked me how I managed to find my
way home. So I spent the first eight years of my life basically "blind".
I am thinking that perhaps I never fully developed my visualization
skills
because of this. I think the skill I developed was touch and feel.
Usually when I am imagining something I use my mind to *trace* the shape
of the object. Its hard to explain this but I think it is much like the
way a blind person uses his hands to *see* an object.  Of course I can
see fine *with my glasses* and know what the object looks like so I do
not have to trace the whole object before I recognize it. But for *new*
things I never seen before (using imagination)It takes effort and time
to build up a picture in my mind. It works for me but I miss so many
details like colors. As I mentioned before, I *can* visualize usally its
just a foggy image. At times it is very vividly sometimes, although very
rarely. 

I believe it is a skill I have not developed correctly, but that can
hopefully improve with practice. On
the other hand I have probably developed my *mental tracing* skill
better
than most. I have found this skill useful in my engineering career.

I think at least one time I went deeper than the other times. That was
the time I felt myself spinning and drifting. It was really exciting :-)


*************************** The next Tape **********************

I would like only the ocean wave back ground, no music.

More strong authoritarian commands. I really found myself compelled to
obey them.

Until I improve my visualizing skills, your deepening suggestions should
probably be in the physical form. I responded well to most of them. Or
if you can understand how I form "images" in my mind, that might work as
well.

As I said I liked all your suggestions to help my improve. Perhaps
though you might give me a little more time to form the images in my
mind. I want this section to again be on the tape.

I would like the option to drift off to normal sleep, or wake up at the
end of the tape. 

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If you have managed to read down this far, I thank you very much for
your patience and understanding. I am very happy with your first tape
:-) and I am looking forward to the next.

I am very anxious to hear your thoughts about my experience with your
tape and my thoughts for the next tape.

Warmest Regards,

Ed

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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:39:55 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Re: Deep Hypnosis Tape #1

Inessa King Zaleski wrote:

> I concur with your assessment that you went into a very deep state 
> (eyelids and eyes fluttering, losing my voice, inability to open your
> eyes and many more...)

Yes, although it varies time to time, I am definitely entering a deeper
state.

> Describe to me more about your special place...

Well, I would say I am on a secluded beach walking barefoot in the sand.
The shore is very rocky, with lots of small coves. As I walk along the
shore, the ocean waves wash over my feet. The water is refreshingly
cool. When you ask me to find a place to lay down I find myself laying
down on a small soft sand bank.

These images are not very clear, but it is what I am imagining. The
clearest image is the waves washing over my feet.

This is a place where I can relax and let go.

> Allow yourself to FEEL the numbers at first.

Good suggestion! I started feeling the numbers. They are large 3D
blocks. After feeling the numbers, I push them aside and start on the
next. I still got a little confused but I got down to about 31 before
your *grabbed* my attention back. I felt like I went deeper during this.

> >I think at least one time I went deeper than the other times. That
> >was
> >the time I felt myself spinning and drifting. It was really exciting
> :-)  :-)  :-)

After the one time this happened I was hoping it would happen again. But
at least it showed me what my mind can do! I suppose I am just on the
edge of a much deeper state, and the one time I reached it. When I am
able to reach that depth regularly, I will be very happy :-)

> Your thoughts for the next tape go right along my assessment of your
> progression.
> I will do my best again for your next tape...

I know you will do your best and I am anticipating it! 

Warmest Regards,

Ed

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:26:33 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Re: Deep Hypnosis Tape #1

> My advice: Go into it with NO EXPECTATIONS!
> When you expect something to happen, your body is tensing up in
> anticipation and then you are not as relaxed as you could be to
> complete enjoy and benefit!
> So, relax and allow my voice to take you... allow yourself to totally
> give in to the experience.

Dear Inessa,

I know you are correct. I can see where expecting something to happen
would distract and cause me to resist. Your voice is very easy to be
taken in with. 

If while listening to you, and my thoughts drift off to other things, I
have been allowing them to go. You always bring me back later. Is that
another type of resistance or is that "giving in to the experience"?

 I think you are asking me to put aside my critical side and my
pre-conceptions. To give in completely is the key and I will keep that
thought foremost. 


Ed

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:56:13 -0500
From: Ed
To: Inessa King Zaleski 
Subject: Deep Hypnosis Tape #2

Dear Inessa,

I received your tape tuesday and have listened to it a few times. I must
complement your ability to listen to your clients wishes. And I am
starting to see how your custom tapes work. Each one is fine tuned for
the things that work best for me.

Just a couple of quick observations:

o You are certainly getting my attention with your voice!

o I didn't think I could relax much more than I did in the first tape
  but the second tape is relaxing me so much that it seems like I almost
  can't feel my body. I also felt so heavy I though I might fall
  through the bed.

o And after I wake up, instead of just my hands and ankles being
  frozen, my whole body has a hard time to get moving. It is very hard
  to open my eyes.

o Thanks for adding the option to drift off to sleep. Last night I
  found myself in a wonderful quasi zone just before I drifted off. 

o And lastly, I have started to see some random fairly clear
  random images. Even a few numbers!! (I will not expect it to
  happen but I just wanted to let you know it did.)

It is going well. I will continue working with this tape and will just
allow myself to experience it and your voice. I am finding that while I
am in my relaxed state, I am increasingly "wanting" to please you and
obey your suggestions. I am starting to realize how powerful hypnosis
can be.


Take care!

Ed